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 On May, 2001 the following message was posted online to XP-Archaeology Yahoo e-Groups:

 

 Proof that [Q3], the square hole, relates to (F) sound and not (P):

 

By Ossama Alsaadawi

Brief abstract:

*1- Primary reading:

Egyptian archaeologist and Egyptologist Ahmad Afandi Naguib: ~ 1893 AD

>> [Q3] has the value of (f) and not (p). Therefore, Ptah reads truly as 'ftah' - (Ancients of Nile Valley) - pages 259, 289, 325.

Egyptian linguist and Egyptologist Anton Zikri: >> [Q3] has the value of (f) anf not (p). Therefore, Ptah reads truly as 'ftah', Key of AE language - page109. >> [N1:X1*Z1] has the Coptic value (fi) for (pt), sky.

    

 Key to Ancient Egyptian Language, page 123.

 >> [O1], the house sign, has the value of (fr) and not (pr). [D21:Z1-O1:Z1], has the Coptic value (er-fi) = temple.

 Key to Ancient Egyptian Language, page 123.

 Egyptian linguist and Egyptologist Ahmad Bek Kamal:

 >> [Q3] has the value of (f) and not (p). Therefore, Ptah reads as 'ftah' - (Bagheyit Altalibeen - page 125).

 *2- Further independent study:

Hieroglyphic sign [Q3], the square hole or 'stool of reed matting', as defined by Gardiner, is classified by linguists as Hebrew (F) letter. They are also nearly similar in shape.

Hieroglyphic signs [Q3] and [O1] have been clearly offered Coptic value (F), (phi) in many Hieroglyphic words that include these two signs.

Examples:

Coptic Etymological Dictionary, Compiled by J. Cerny, Sometime Professor of Egyptology in the University of Oxford, Page - 225

An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary, By, E.A. Wallis Budge, I.S.B.N: 0-486-23615-3, Comes in two volumes.

Pages: 42 - 229 - 230 - 233 - 234 - 237 - 243 - 245 - 597 - 991 - etc.

    

Original work of Champollion:

 *3- Sound comparisons and etymology of Egyptian

names of districts, towns, villages and places:

There are hundreds of current places in Egypt that still carry their original AE names.

Few examples:

(Fayoom), a district south-west to Cairo,

[G40-G1-M17*M17-G17-N35A] = Fayoom, Ancient Egyptian language, ISBN 977-19-5447-4, p. 239

    

(Atfeeh), a town in Giza: [D1-O49] = Atfeeh, AEL, p. 232, ++ Budge EHD P. 1056

(Safd-Elhinna), a village near Zaqaziq town, [S29-Q3:D46-X8-C1], AEL, p. 238, ++ Budge EHD P. 1035

 *4- Sound comparisons and etymology of Egyptian colloquial and Coptic words:

Few examples:

(Fasakh), equivalent to [Q3:O34:Aa1*D54], = elapse, pass, Budge EHD P. 232, 248 .. There is no Egyptian word that phones as (pasakh)!

(Fat), equivalent to [Q3-G40-X1], [Q3:X1-D54], = elapse, pass, Budge EHD P. 230, 253 .. There is no Egyptian word that phones as (pat)!!

(Fashesh), equivalent to [Q3:N37A:N37A]-D54, = crash, shatter, Budge EHD P. 251 .. There is no Egyptian word that phones as (pashesh)!

(Fashr), equivalent to [Q3:N37A:D21], = lies - Budge EHD P. 251 .. There is no Egyptian word that phones as (pashr).

(Haf), equivalent to [O4:Q3-A24], = beat, Budge EHD P. 446 .. There is no Egyptian word that phones as (paf)!!

(Haafi), equivalent to [M16-G1-Q3-S28], = barefoot, Budge EHD P. 462 .. There is no Egyptian word that phones as (haapi)!!

(Faqir), equivalent to [Q3*N29:D21:N33A], = poor, Budge EHD P. 252 .. There is no Egyptian word that phones as (paqir)!!

(Fad'i), equivalent to [Q3-G1-I10&N33] = empty - Budge EHD P. 233 .. There is no Egyptian word that phones as (pad'i)!!

*5- Popular Coptic names, few examples:

(Fat-Hi), equivalent to [Q3:X1-V28-A2], [Q3:X1-V28-D54], Budge EHD P. 254 .. There is no Coptic name (Pat-Hi)!!

(FaraH), equivalent to [Q3:D21-V28-D54], Budge EHD P. 243 .. There is no Coptic name (ParaH)!!

(Fakhri), equivalent to [G40-F32:D21:D54], Budge P. 232, 246 .. There is no Coptic name (Pakhri)!!

(Ra2oof), equivalent to [D21:Z1-Q3], Budge P. 415 .. There is no Coptic name (Pa2oof)!!

(Fadi), equivalent to [G40-G1-D46:X6], There is no Coptic name (Padi)!!

*6- Sound Comparisons within Egyptian Herbs and plants:

Many Egyptian herbs and plants still carry their original AE names. Ahmad Bek Kamal gives many examples.

One example: broad bean, Ancient Egyptian - (fuul), [Q3:Z7-N33:Z3], Coptic - (fuul), Current Egyptian (fuul)

++ Coptic Etymological Dictionary, Page - 225

*7- Comparison between Egyptian and Greek etymology of

AE words, One example, Name of Queen: (Kleopatra), Greek etymology.

(Kilobatra), Egyptian etymology.

Sign by sign comparison of cartouche of Queen Cleopatra >> King No. 418 / Budge list of AE kings - page 945

never lead to true sign deciphering of included Hieroglyphs,

++ Egyptian Grammar, Being an introduction to the study of Hieroglyphs, By, Sir Alan Gardiner, Third Edition, pages 14, 15.

*8- Arabic sources:

They all refer to [Q3] to have (F) sound, One example:

Arabic Linguist Dr. Ali Fahmi Bakhashwain writes in his book, Gods of Arabic Egypt, pages 17, 111, (per-3a), has an original AE sound of (fer-3a), from which (pher3awn), (firos), etc, have been derived.

*9- Further assertions:

Prof. Joseph Davidovits, France (after consultation with Prf. Dr. Antonio Lopreiano):

[Q3] has the value of (F) and it was turned to (P) during the Ptolemaic epoch when (phi) read roughly as (pi), yielding (Ftah) to (Ptah)!

Mr. Jack Dean, USA

[Q3] has the value of (F), independent study.

Mr. Avry Wilson, Canada

[Q3] has the value of (F), independent study.

*10- Conclusion:

[Q3], the square hole, has a True phone of (F) and not (P).

Ossama Alsaadawi

 

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