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The following article was published on November 2, 2004

on the European online magazine (the whole truth) - toutelaverite.com

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Les religions chrtiennes et hbraques seraient-elles des perversions de la religion originelle de l'Egypte ancienne ?

Un chercheur egyptien Ossama Alsaadawi, dnonce la mauvaise interprtation et traduction des hiroglyphes et ce, depuis Champollion.
Pour comprendre, quelques petits rappels sont necessaires, je vous les livre en vrac :

Les coptes d'Egypte sont parmis les plus anciens chrtiens. Le mot "copte" est l'abrviation du grec "Aigyptos", terme form sur le mot "Het-Ka-Ptah", la maison du Ka (o l'me) de Ptah. Il dsigne les chrtiens gyptiens et leur liturgie ainsi que celle des chrtiens thiopiens. Autre dfinition : vient du grec aeguptios qui signifie gyptien.

La Bible hbraque nomme 600 fois l'Egypte et 270 fois Pharaon. Et le Dcalogue commence par prciser que YHWH a fait sortir son peuple du pays d'Egypte, la maison de l'esclavage. Et l'on ressent dans toute la Bible un peuple traumatis par ses origines lointaines.

Du fait que la culture gyptienne est bien plus ancienne que la culture hbraque, on lui attribue videmment, et pas forcment tort, un certain nombre d'antcdents. Par exemple l'importance du sacrifice, la circoncision, le baptme, l'organisation et le rle du temple etc. Mais en fait, on pourra lui attribuer bien plus encore, vous le verrez dans la suite de cet article.

Pour bien comprendre le cheminement de pense d'Ossama Alsaadawi, il faut galement se rappeler que la langue arabe parle et crite en Egypte est de l'arabe pur appel galement arabe littraire. Et Ossama Alsaadawi d'expliquer :

La langue gyptienne Parle :
AE: Lire Ancienne Egypte

1A = si nous suivons la trace les graphmes AE, ou les signes Hiroglyphiques crits, nous constatons qu'ils taient extrmement stables depuis les temps pr dynastiques lointains jusqu' l'anne 390 ap J.-C.. Cela signifie simplement que la langue d'AE  est reste stable pendant cette longue priode de temps.

1B = le Copte Egyptien  a empch  la Langue gyptienne parle d'tre perdue pendant la priode de 330 av. J.-C jusqu'ici, en insistant pour prserver leurs noms d'AE et la langue parle quotidienne, comme :

3aziz - Ghali - Nakhlah - Mo7ib - Samir - Monir - Gameel - Magdi - Sam3an - Fawzi - H'ilmi - Khaleel - Bushra - Labeeb - Wahba - Shakir - Milaad - Amin - Ghlalib - Farag - H'abeeb, etc.

Cela signifie simplement que :

La langue Egyptienne parle n'a pas chang depuis les lointains temps pr dynastiques nos jours. La langue parle gyptienne a gagn beaucoup de mots trangers mais son coeur principal n'a pas chang.

1C = la langue parle arabe est seulement une partie de large langue parle gyptienne. N'importe quel Egyptien peut facilement compter des centaines des mots gyptiens qui n'ont aucun quivalent dans l'arabe classique. C'est ce que nous appelons la langue gyptienne 'familire' ou '3ammiyyah'. 

Voici un exemple :

Des peuples gyptiens utilisent un mot de ngation quotidien qui n'a aucun quivalent dans l'arabe classique, c'est (sh) ou (ma .. sh).

Par exemple :

Le mot (rou7 / rouH) qui signifie (va) n'a aucun quivalent dans l'arabe classique.
Les Egyptiens disent (ma - tro7-sh) = (matroHsh), Qui signifie (n'allez pas).

Vous ne trouverez jamais le mot (troHsh) ou (matroHsh) dans l'arabe classique!!

Il y a des centaines de tels mots introuvables dans l'arabe classique. 

Je vous passe les travaux techniques de dchiffrement proprement dits effectus par Ossama Alsaadawi. Vous trouverez aisment ces informations dans ses livres ou sur son site:

http://www.ossama-alsaadawi.com

Voici quelques exemples de graphmes avec la traduction d'Alsaadawi et la traduction "officielle":

 

 

Lm

Vraie valeur phontique de ce signe [S34] de cravate = Lm
Ils l'ont tort dchiffr ' 3ankh'!!

 

S-Lm = slm = silm

Vraie valeur phontique de ce signe = salam = paix

Faulkner, Dictionnaire de Moyen p.214 gyptien.
Il l'a traduit : ' perptuez le nom '!!

Rb

Vraie valeur phontique de ce lion couch seigneur le signe [E23] = rb
Ils l'ont tort dchiffr '
rw, L '!!

Hw

Vraie valeur phontique de ce signe [C3] de Noah = Hw
Ils l'ont tort dchiffr '
DHwti, tHoth, Thoth '!!

Nb + na

Vraie valeur phontique de ce signe [S5] = nb + na
Ils l'ont tort dchiffr
'skhmty'!!, ' la couronne double de l'Egypte Suprieure et Infrieure '!!

Exemple :
Nabi = Prophte
Nabil = noble

nf

Vraie valeur phontique de ce reniflement de nez (Eg. niff) le signe [C6] = nf
Ils l'ont tort dchiffr '
inpw!! d'Anubis

Ga

Vraie valeur phontique de ce signe [F4] 'aga' = ga
Ils l'ont tort dchiffr 'au Chapeau'!!

Za

Vraie valeur phontique de ce signe [I15] en zigzag de serpent = za
Ils l'ont tort dchiffr '
Hfaw, Ddft '!!

Exemples :
Zanb = pch, Hafizan = protecteur, Zaalim = oppresseur, 3azaab = torture, etc

Qm

Vraie valeur phontique de ce signe [A53] se levant = qm
Ils l'ont tort dchiffr '
wi, twt, qi, la statue, la maman, etc '!!

Rn

Vraie valeur phontique de ce signe [V9] d'anneau = rn
Ils l'ont tort dchiffr
'shnw'!!

Les graphmes ci-dessus, ne reprsentent vraiment qu'une toute petite partie du travail de traduction d'Ossama Alsaadawi, mais la suite est encore plus interessante !

La suite, la voici, accrochez-vous !

3a-rb

3a-rb = 3arab = Arabe!!
Wallis Budge
EHD p.112a

sr-r2

Dieu AE 'Osiris' est en fait le Vrai Prophte gyptien Antique 'l'Isral'.
sr-r2 = isra2il = l'Isral!!

Wallis Budge
EHD p.83a, traduit : ' Dieu gyptien dynastique '!!

NwH

Dieu AE 'Thoth' est en fait le Vrai Prophte gyptien Antique 'NwH' ou 'Noah'.
NwH
/ Noah = No

Ibrahim

Dieu AE 'PtaH' est en fait le Vrai Prophte gyptien Antique 'Ibrahim' ou 'Abraham'.

Mwsa

Dieu AE 'ImHotep' est en fait le Vrai Prophte gyptien Antique 'Mwsa' ou 'Mose'.

dawwd

Le Vrai Prophte gyptien Antique et le Roi David (dawwd)

Solaiyman

Le Vrai Prophte gyptien Antique et le Roi Solomon (Solaiyman)

Maryam

La desse AE 'Isis' est en fait le Vrai Egyptien Antique devinent Maryam ou 'Mari'.

Et pour finir:

almasieHu 3isa

 = the Christ Jesus


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الرسالة الهامة التالية أذيعت على الهواء يوم 12 فبراير 2005 م على صفحة الرسائل الخاصة بالدكتور أسامة السعداوي:

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On 2/12/2005 10:21:15 AM remi-yves@sympatico.ca wrote:

Dear Sir, I just had today another confirmation of your linguistic and religious theories that are FACTS. In a radio interview (in French), the Egyptologist of France for the past 50 yrs, Mme Christiane Desroches Noblecourt in her latest book "le Fabuleux Heritage de l'Egypte", ed SW-Telemaque [ISBN 2-7533-0009-7], 309 pages, November 2004 (you can go to amazon.fr (France), admitted that:

1- what all egyptologists KNOW but refuse to recognize publicly - that that Judaism and Christian faiths BOTH stem from the Ancient Egyptian religion.

2- that there are NO thousands of Egyptian divinities but just ONE GOD and that these so-called divinities are QUALITIES describing the unique one.

3- as she is now 91 yrs old she can tell the truth without any "bad consequences"... And yet in my city (Montreal) there is presently an exposition about Egyptian treasures and its numerous Egyptian Gods, I might add that numerous JEWS are denouncing the present day Jewish religion as having its root in Babylon rituals and hence not the real religion of God both that of Moloch (devil).

I do encourage you to contact the webmaster of this site http://www.rense.com the Jeff Rense program is close to #1 on the Net and talks about a variety of subjects - political, esoteric, religious, Egyptology, etc .. I am sure you would make a most interesting guest and your works would get a much wider coverage. Also via this website your books could be made more accessible to a larger public... Finally I do hope that you will be able to do a sort of "web-log" and maybe an e-mail newsletter so that people can contribute to your research and make it more mainstream...

In regards to your interpretation of the AE language you are right as I found out to my dismay that many serious errors in deciphering simple words like for gold are KNOWN to egyptologists yet they keep on repeating the mistaken translations over and over again for the sake of continuity and "not to rock the boat".. Yours, ...

 

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الرسالة الهامة التالية أذيعت على الهواء يوم 17 براير 2005 م على :

The following article was published on February 17, 2005

on Rense Radio Forum

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from ryb2005 , registered member:

Ancient Egypt - Astounding Revelation

On Feb 15th there was a public announcement of great importance yet it passed unnoticed in the mainstream media


Note- I am not a scholar nor do I have a vested interest or financial one with the groups/people whose links I am providing nor am I of Arabic origin nor have an hidden agenda. I am NOT an islamist, Christian , Jew, atheist, etc..

So this DISCOVERY, what was it and why and how ?

1- Then HOW - egyptologists are basing their researches on the comprehension of hieroglyphic texts and artifacts..

Yet consider this:

A- the hieroglyphs used are mostly texts written on monuments, funeral tombs, etc..

- Isn't strange to base one's comprehension of a language by deciphering tombstones ? And then trying to apply it to everyday life speech ? Just try learning a language that way !
 

- These scholars have created artificial divisions like Old Egyptian, Classical Egyptian, Late Egyptian..

- They base their works on Champollion's deciphering of the Rosetta stone yet he MADE grave mistakes. These blunders have been recognized (in their specialized journals, essays, etc..) YET these same scholars keep on repeating these wrong translations over and over maybe as to "not rock the boat"..
 

- It was discovered and admitted this past November 2004 that ARAB SCHOLARS had deciphered Ancient Egyptian centuries before Champollion yet the main press is rather silent..
 

- 95 of all textbooks to learn "Egyptian" is on "Classical Egyptian" which interpretation is FLAWED..
 

- Also 99% of these scholars do not give a hoot about the correct pronunciation of the text- yet all the VOWELS ARE KNOWN AND THEY STILL REFUSE TO USE THEM - THEY USE AN ARTIFICIAL FABRICATED SYSTEM LIKE PUTTING AN "E" IN LIEU OF ANY VOWELS..

- And Egyptian language did remain CONSTANT for over 4000 yrs ;it did NOT evolve into new languages like the Romance languages (French, Spanish, etc..) evolved from Latin..
 

B- Hundreds of common words (even proverbs, myths, etc,,) of Ancient Egyptian are still in use today,.

These words are found in the COLLOQUIAL SPOKEN MODERN EGYPTIAN (not the written literary/.classical Arabic used in the print media). More so that many common expressions in Egypt are unheard off in other "Arab countries"

2- Then WHY- well this rediscovery is very unsettling for:

A- It proves that the faith of the Jews, Christian and Muslim have ONE COMMON ORIGIN.

B- Contrary to popular beliefs and majority of egyptologists the ancient Egyptian religion was a DEIST religion meaning that they believed in ONE GOD, the HOLY SPIRIT and the AFTERLIFE..

All these divinities were simply different aspects/qualities of the same GOD (a sort of comparison like our 'saints"/holy men /prophets in the Muslim, Christian and Jewish faiths.

C- the people of Ancient Egypt did NOT VANISH. They are simply the "so-called Arabs" of Egypt..
The Copts who claim to descend from the builders of the pyramids (ancient egyptians) are descendants from settlers / invaders that came from Greece and then later from Roman empire..

So much that a Copt resembles a South European (Spanish, Italian, etc..)

Yes there were intermarriage but it never became a melting pot.. like in the US..

3- Then WHAT-

A- Ancient Egyptian has not evolved like Latin did so it is why a new approach reading the hieroglyphs is rather logical and not more unknown signs ,obscure passages, etc..

B- For the past several years there has been a RENEWED interest in Ancient Egypt by the Egyptian themselves so it is no more the thing of the British and other European scholars..

C- an international egyptologist has recognized that indeed in the Ancient Egypt there was the belief only ONE GOD and that all the /writing about the hundreds of Egyptian gods..

D- On Feb 15th it was announced that the gigantic statue (head) of RAMSES-2 was in fact the statue of the EGYPTIAN PROPHET MOSES..

4- Here are the links to find out more:

- www.ossama-alsaadawi.com

and click on
 < item #11 of subjects >  

-
www.amazon.fr (France)

search for the book called "Le fabuleux heritage de l'Egypte " par Christiane Desroches Noblecourt,ed. SW-Telemaque,ed 25/11/2004, ISBN 2-7533-0009-7,309 pages, 24.50 Euros taxes shipping..
 

This person is now 91 yrs old and was the 1st woman egyptologist for the past 50 yrs, in charge of EGYPTIAN ANTIQUITIES at MUSEE DU LOUVRE, FRANCE..

www.lexiline.com

and also
www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi53.htm

for the uncanny relation between LATVIAN and ANCIENT EGYPTIAN

(my post and response I got from the author); also the links to book by this illustrious egyptologist admitting that only ONE GOD in Ancient Egypt..

etc,

 

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الرسالة 20 2003 لى صفحة الرسائل الخاصة بالدكتور أسامة السعداوي:

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On 5/20/2003 12:30:16 PM vkalashnikov@mail.ru wrote:

Dear Dr. Alsaadawi,

My name is Vladislav, I live in Russia, and I am teaching history in the institute.

I am and my students are interesting very much about your works on hieroglyphs.

But we have lack of books about this. May be you can tell me, how to get your books on English, or maybe just a copies?

Please, contact me, if it's possible.

Thank you very much. Vladislav Kalashnikov, PhD

 

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On 12/4/2002 1:29:44 PM rfy@malmo.bonet.se wrote:

First of all I feel I have to thank you for enlightening the field of Egyptology with your research. More people like you are needed to decipher the worlds heritage. Secondly, my interest in the field of Egyptology is just getting started, so as such, I do not possess much knowledge except for my common sense. Now to my question... Since I have not been successful in locating any homepage on the internet that lists the names of all the months and days of the week in the AEL, I was wondering if you would do the honors (preferably with the pronunciation in English as well as the Egyptian hieroglyphs). May be you could incorporate it into your already existing page of the "Ancient Egyptian Calendar System". I find the similarities between the Mayan and the Egyptian calendar system interesting. / Roger Fylling (Sweden)

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On 2/16/2005 1:40:21 AM, Dr Magda Shebait wrote:

Nous avons t honors qu'il a prsent quelques grandes confrences notre association de la Langue gyptienne Ancienne et de la Civilisation UNE. Il nous a avec gentillesse offert une copie de ses notes personnelles dont l'histoire brve suivante a t abrge. annes, dans un grand article appel comme 'Nouveau Champollion de l'Egypte' sur la 'Dernire Heure' le magazine gyptien tendu distribu aprs la Corporation de Presse de Nouvelles gyptienne 'Akhbar'. Voici un abrgement de cette histoire intressante :

L'histoire d'une grande dcouverte :

L'Egypte tait toujours le terrain d'histoires mystrieuses anciennes ternelles, aventures et rvlations. Voici l'histoire d'une dcouverte gyptienne unique magnifique, stupfiante et excitante. Beaucoup de grands hommes de partout dans le monde pass, le long des sicles prolongs, au terrain de l'Egypte et aux grandes conclusions archologiques faites qui ont clairci et ont guid les gens de notre globe truculent une civilisation ancienne glorieuse ont appel la Civilisation gyptienne Ancienne. Pourtant, avec toutes ces conclusions immenses personne ne pourrait dvoiler les lectures relles et les traductions des textes Hiroglyphiques gyptiens Anciens vastes et tendus comme ceux des Textes de Pyramide, la Pierre de Palermo, Rosetta Stone, les Textes de Papyrus, les textes de Peinture murale, les Textes de Haut lieu, les Textes de Cercueil, les Textes d'Oblisque, etc. Il y avait beaucoup d'essais fidles et a dvou des efforts de lire et traduire les hiroglyphes gyptiens, mais, malheureusement, la plupart d'entre eux ont dgnr et ont men les gens aux histoires extrmement fausses de la Civilisation gyptienne Ancienne et de l'Histoire gyptienne Ancienne!

Notre homme est n dans la ville alexandrine d'Egypte. En tant attentif depuis que il tait un enfant dans le jardin d'enfants qu'il a soulev vite travers de plus hauts niveaux d'ducation. À l'cole prparatoire il aimait crire des noms de ses amis dans les hiroglyphes gyptiens dans la lumire de thorie traditionnelle de Champollion. Il a continu apprendre des hiroglyphes comme un hobby depuis, mais seulement avec les signes courts simples.

Depuis que 1966 o il tait un cadet cadet dans le Collge Technique Militaire MTC de Caire, Ossama Alsaadawi a gagn un fort motif et un besoin persistant de commencer lire les Hiroglyphes gyptiens. Il a assist quelques classes locales officielles et populaires Caire qui enseignent la Langue gyptienne Ancienne en ce temps-l, ensemble avec son tude de soi tendue. Aprs quelques annes, il a essay de lire quelques textes Hiroglyphiques, mais il a tout fait chou!

De ses notes personnelles main leve qui ont t crites dans plus de 40 grands carnets chacun de 150 papiers nous avons extrait l'histoire de cette dcouverte.

En anne 1991 il a dcid de recommencer un nouveau travail de recherche frais bas sur les principes scientifiques rels. Il a collectionn beaucoup de cartouches Hiroglyphiques et a commenc les lire dans la lumire de thorie traditionnelle de Champollion et essayer d'exprimer des paroles de leurs noms en mettant ensuite les hiroglyphes correspondants par crit dans quelques tables de comparaison ensemble avec la table du phonme. Aprs qu'autrefois il a remarqu que ces noms n'incluent aucun de deux phonmes gyptiens trs importants qui sont, (L) et (Z) phonations. Quand il a rendu en arrire la table Champollion il ne les a jamais trouvs! C'tait une conclusion relle par laquelle il a t trs stupfi et impressionn. Immdiatement il a commenc les chercher. C'tait relativement facile pour lui de trouver (L) grapheme perdus parce qu'il ressemble la lettre (L) quelques lignes de langue modernes comme l'anglais, les langues hbraques et arabes. Tous incluent la lettre (L) reprsent presque la mme voie que l'gyptien (L) 'corde' grapheme [V13]! En anne 1992 il a dclar cette conclusion importante sur une mission de tlvision locale, mais il n'tait pas assez pour le faire lire des textes hiroglyphiques correctement, pendant ce temps les gens n'taient pas attentifs qu'il disait!

La continuation avec sa recherche suivie et persistant travaille il a bientt dvoil le deuxime a perdu le phonme (Z) et a constat que c'est 'le lzard' zigzags grapheme [I9], connu dans l'gyptologie traditionnelle comme la 'vipre cornes' sous le groupe 'de reptiles' et qui a t mal dchiffr au phonme (f). En remplaant les (L) corrects et (Z) les phonmes dans quelques mots hiroglyphiques gyptiens et en excutant des comparaisons linguales denses il a dcouvert la troisime faute fondamentale. Il a correctement redchiffr 'l'orifice' carr grapheme [Q3] pour lire vraiment comme (F) le phonme, pendant que Champollion l'a mal dchiffr ( p)! Admirablement, il n'y a AUCUN son (p) dans toutes les sortes de dialectes gyptiens locaux et de discours!

En commenant partir de l'anne 1994, Ossama Alsaadawi a commenc lire 'correctement' quelques mots hiroglyphiques gyptiens Anciens simples, mais il a t fortement poustoufl quand il s'est rendu compte que ces mots vocalisent exactement comme quelques mots gyptiens parls modernes. Il a chuchot lui : 'qui sur la terre me croira si je leur ai dit' ?!

Mais il a continu. Dans le court temps, il a dchiffr correctement encore deux phonmes fondamentaux, qui sont (y) et les phonmes (th) reprsents par les signes hiroglyphiques [N23] et [Z2A]. Alors il a lu plus de mots gyptiens correctement. Alors en anne 1995 il est sorti le groupe de phonme limit au large groupe phontique complexe de hiroglyphes qui est compos de presque 1000 graphemes hiroglyphiques fondamentaux. Les phonmes nouveaux correctement dchiffrs ont permis Ossama Alsaadawi au dchiffrement correct du grand nombre de Hiroglyphes gyptiens vagues et mystrieux qui ont t mal lus dans l'gyptologie traditionnelle. En 1996 il a russi pour dchiffrer correctement beaucoup de hiroglyphes du groupe complexe.

En 1997 la Langue gyptienne Ancienne a ouvert ses portes largement Ossama Alsaadawi

En 1998 il a commenc construire les bases concrtes de sa thorie linguale historique et un avril 1999 il a dclar sa thorie dans le monde entier et a commenc des discussions linguales en ligne denses avec les savants d'allover le monde. Il a post plus de 8 mille de messages sur le web et a excut des centaines de discussions. Il a conu et a publi trois sites Web sur le Filet et a publi localement beaucoup de livres et notes de la Langue gyptienne Ancienne et a prsent des dizaines de confrences allover l'Egypte.

Ossama Alsaadawi dit qu'il devrait exprimer son respect profond, gratitude et apprciation tous les gyptologues grands et hautement respects et aux linguistes Hiroglyphiques gyptiens qui ont pass des efforts sincres immenses essayant de dchiffrer le langage crit le plus ardu et complexe dans l'histoire d'humanit. Un script qui est n aux res passes immmoriales a alors continu depuis de longs milliers des annes et a arrt depuis plus de 17 sicles depuis l'anne 390AD. Il a courageusement reconnu que sans les travaux dvous de ces scientifiques honntes sa thorie n'aurait pas t l'organisation ou aurait port. Il croit aussi que ces grands savants sont des amants d'Egypte fidles reels

Dr Magda Shebait, Association d'Imhotep, Heliopolis - Caire

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الرسالة 18 2005 لى صفحة الرسائل الخاصة بالدكتور أسامة السعداوي:

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On 2/18/2005 10:02:53 PM raposo1906@hotmail.com wrote:

Hello Dr. Alsaadawi, Im very impressed with the information that you have provided in your website.

I truly believe that your theories will one day be proven accurate. Even on a pure logically way of looking at what you have discovered, your theories make a lot of sense.

Now, the one theory that Im glad that you have discovered and that Im very impressed with is the one in which you discovered that AE did not worship thousands of gods but just one god and that the rest of the bigger than life figures that conventional Egyptologist have interpreted as gods are in reality, apostles.

This is clearly the case is we look at the example of Imhotep (forgive me for not knowing his real name, Im a newbie) because he was known to has existed as a living person in AE and even recognized by Greeks and Romans and he was elevated to an apostles status for his great contributions.

Im very glad for having come across your website and Im looking forward to purchasing your books. I hope that you get to translate them into English because I dont know any Arabic.

Thanks very much. I enjoy your work very much. Keep them translations coming and please dont get upset at the comments of some the English speaking folks. We are not all ignorant and some if not most of us love the work that you are doing.

Rich

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On 3/3/2005 5:42:31 PM hansiherbst@hotmail.com wrote:

Hello Mr. Alsaadawi, do you remember me? I had some few discussions with Mr. JD and others on the Guardian discussion board few years ago! I have been to Egypt for some little time sub-working in the project of 'Akhetaten' at Amarna. In fact I see that most of your findings about the Ancient Egyptian Language and other stuff of Egyptology are quite logic and reasonable. I believe it could initiate a new era of advanced research work in sciences of Egyptology.

I read once, on the Guardian discussion board, a quote from Mr. Jack Dean which states that your theory is established on broad knowledge and that it is quite coherent and having high internal consistency. He said also that your approach is not only sound but profound. After I carefully reviewed many of your statements and new translations, I believe now that he is quite right. Please, keep up the good work of yours.

H. S. Herbst

 

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The following important message has been posted online on Isis-Moon Club after the original Theory on the website of Ossama Alsaadawi,

I find it proper to include it here for the sake of good Egyptology.

Best Regards,
Ossama Alsaadawi

 

Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 19:32:07 -0000
From: "clubsmoderator"

Subject: NEWS ARTICLE: New theory of the building of the Great Pyramid

To travel from the USA to Egypt in just few hours is a real wonder, but using a Boeing 747 is a much more wonderful fact. Both are true wonders that no one can deny. However, when one arrives to Giza Plateau in Egypt and looks to the Great Pyramid of Khufu, he or she stands at once astounded, knowing that he or she is facing a real True Fact that dates back to immemorial ancient civilization. The mind is sparkled immediately by three questions: 1- When? 2- Why? 3- How?

Unfortunately and surprisingly, modern humans have failed to answer these three logic questions for more than 4000 bygone years. Even Herodot failed to answer it when he visited ancient Egypt in 430BC.
In this article, we'll try to shed light on the primary answer of the third question only, that is: How the Ancient Egyptian Great Pyramid of Khufu has been constructed?

There are remnants of nearly 80 pyramids that stand alongside the path of the river Nile in Egypt. Some of them are still in good condition but we are mainly interested in GP because it is the highest and most interesting one.

Knowledgeable archaeologists and Egyptologists explain that: The Main bulk of the GP is composed of 2.5 million stone blocks, each weighs 3 tons in average. This colossal mass of stone blocks is compiled in a pyramid-shaped construction with a maximum height of 146 m and base side-length of nearly 230-m. It stands on top of a plateau, or big rocky hill, the roof of which is raised 60m above the water level of the Nile, known as Giza Plateau.

Up to now there is no real problem. However, one little bit of technical data is really interesting. Architects assert that the King's Chamber (KC) only is roofed by 9 vast massive granite stone blocks, each weighing 75 tons. Egyptologists say that they are no more than 40 tons according to their rough estimations.
Archaeologists say that that each weighs 55 tons. KC is placed at a height of nearly 70m from the base of the GP or nearly 130m from the water level of the Nile.

Here, we reach the real problem of the GP construction, which is
summarized by the following very simple question: How could engineers of King Khufu raised-up 55 ton stone blocks to a height of 130 meters? To clarify this question in a better way, let's ask: How could modern humans raise a 55 ton truck up to the roof of a skyscraper, like the Empire State Building for instance, without using any kind of machinery or self-propellant engines?

Egyptologists answered this question by bringing forth the ramp-theory, which states that the ancient Egyptians raised up these 55 ton stone blocks by dragging them up a ramp with a slope of 6-8 degrees, made of dust or hard mud using no rollers but only manpower and some lubricants! Many people believed them but a few believe it to be impossible.

Why do they believe it impossible? Well, let simple mathematics speak: Work done = mass x gravity x height - that is - (W = m x g x h). Therefore, work done to raise up one 55 ton stone block is: W = 55000 kg x 10 x 130 = 71,500,000 joules (nearly 71 million joules). 1 horsepower = 750 joules/sec. Therefore, energy needed to raise up only ONE granite beam is equal to nearly 95 thousand horsepower/sec, or nearly a million manpower/sec, which is IMPOSSIBLE to attain by human force alone.

Then, what if we calculated the whole work done necessary to build up the whole Great Pyramid? Alsaadawi says that it is given simply as: Total work done = 0.22 x total mass x gravity x maximum height. So, total work done used to build the Great Pyramid is: 0.22 x 7.5 billion kgs x 10 x 146 > 2.4 Tera Joules. Therefore, calculations indicate that King Khufu needed billions of horsepower to realize this historic world wonder that has survived for long thousands of years!

Conclusion: No way with ramps and No way with manpower alone to build the GP. There must be some kind of external natural active-power to realize the job. The question now is; what was this active power? One new theory is that this active power was Water. That is, hydraulic force of successive inundation waters that was used within a highly organized state project to raise up the main massive stone bulk of the Great Pyramid within a big hydraulic complex, using ascending wells, leakage water tunnels, heavy wooden floats, boats, etc.


So, the question of how 5 ton stone blocks could be raised up to a height of 20 meters without using modern machinery or human labor, could be answered that it could be done by Hydraulic Lifts. If this new theory is true, Pharaoh Khufu used ascending wells, hydraulic lifts and hydraulic techniques for building his Great Pyramid, power = water mass / area of ascending well. This would be the golden hydraulic rule on which Khufu may have relied, to design very effective hydraulic lifts and to raise-up colossal heavy stones up to high altitudes. This leads to the assumption that nearly all pyramids and even mastabas were built using the same technique, that is Hydraulic Lifts.

Those people who agree with this modern theory also state that: If friction is ignored then the work done (energy spent) is m*g*h, no matter what path is taken by the mass; it is only the change is height that is important. This is a result of physics that applies to many different situations. Including the effect of friction can only increase the required amount of work, and now the path taken to raise the mass is important. The least work would be done by lifting the mass straight up (pushing the mass up a slope, even if it were on wheels, would take more energy). No matter what method of construction they used (ramps, pulleys, cranes, counter-weights or levers) this is the amount of energy that had to be spent by the workmen, if no other source of power was harnessed.

The granite beams would destroy these ramps, so these blocks may have been lifted by some other method. Inundation power would greatly simplify this, as the problem becomes a matter of buoyancy which invalidates the use of m*g*h. Furthermore, these granite beams had to have been lowered into position. Surely sliding them into position would pull the King's chamber apart.

Some people try to ignore all scientific and physical evidence to prove that their imaginary wrong assumptions are correct. They insist that a group of men is able to raise up a 50 ton granite block up a muddy ramp to a 50 meter height using only their hands and manpower. When we told them that physics and science proved that this is impossible, they said we'd prove it practically! They brought 1-ton stone block (using a truck) to the location and used about 20 men to drag the stone up a very small pre-prepared ramp that extends to only 2 meters height in 2 hours hardworking. Then they said, you see: the experiment has succeeded.

But what if they tried another only additional eight meters of height? In, fact the stone weight will not remain 1 ton. It'll be 1 ton plus its new gravitational weight, which is (1+m*g*h). It means the new stone weight is, (1+1000*10*10/10/1000/2) = (1+5) = 6 tons.
Now they need much more men to raise-up the new weight, which is (6 tons), not only 1 ton! Then what about only additional 20 meters?! or at upper courses of the GP at an altitude of 130 meters for instance?
As one might expect, those who do not agree with the old theories of pyramid construction call the experiment a BIG FAILURE, even using only a 1-ton stone block.

Followers of the new theory also have further stated: Our calculations convinced us that most of the ramp concepts would have been impractical because they involved a construction effort greater than that required for the pyramid itself. We assumed that the ancient Egyptians would not commit resources to building anything more than minimally required given the fact that the ramp had to be demolished at the conclusion of construction.

According to the new theorists: The Lehner-Hawas ramp theory failed to find `any' scientific proof further than faint traces of some small ramps used for labor traffic and water motion control.
Meanwhile, the new Hydraulic Theory of Alsaadawi has not denied evident scientific and archaeological facts. One example only is that archaeologists found more than 10 ships and barges preserved inside `airtight' pits ON TOP of Giza plateau. Some people said that those barges were used by the pharaoh and his inferiors to ride the sunbeam to go to the sky to meet sun-god (ra). Scientifically these boats were used as an integrated part of the massive hydraulic system.

The major reason for rejecting the theory of a ramp was the geographical limitation of the Giza Plateau. All kinds of mathematical estimations and physical evidence proved that it was IMPOSSIBLE to use high ramps in raising-up massive stones of the GP.
In other words, the builders had to wait for the water level to reach the required course, place the stones in the same pace of the water rising, and stop working as soon as the level exceeded the desired level. The next year, they still had to wait idle until the water level reached where they have stopped previously, and race against time again fulfilling the 9-10 courses quota before the water level changed again.

This had to be repeated over several years, until the Nile could not reach the required original height of 481 ft. Then they would proceed by using an engineering system means to `control' waters motion and levels by some well-known hydraulic techniques like the case in shipyards using water locks. In fact, working on GP construction never stopped because of differentiation of inundation power. Raising up was only one small operation of the whole project.

An interesting fact: The stones of the initial 18 courses average 2-6 tons apiece. Starting the 19th course, the stones became huge (10-15 apiece) for the next 203 courses. The rule of logic dictates a progressive diminution of mass as one goes upwards. That's why Hydraulic Theory is believed by some to be the only one that Works.
This would be the real Genius of Khufu and the GP. For this reason 8 major armies failed, in the long history of Egypt, to demolish the GP.

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The following messages were posted in year 1999 on the discussion forum of the Guardian's site for Egyptology:

 

By Bill on Monday, July 12, 1999 - 01:11 pm:

Different tribes from different regions had their own name(s) for deity or for different aspects of deity. Yahweh, Allah, Brahma, Shango etc. are all various people's names for deity or aspects of deity. This doesn't mean these are literally different ' Gods', only different expressions of divinity given different names. Allah has 99 names. That doesn't mean there are 99 Allah's !

Why is this so hard to grasp? A Christian equivalent would be ' Prince of Peace, Messiah, Good Shepherd, Son of God, Holy Redeemer' etc. Does the trinity make Christians polytheists?

I also remember Ossama noting that Aten worship wasn't seen as monotheism by the Ancient Egyptian priest craft but rather as idolatry since it reduced deity to one thing, the very physical sun. Worshipping an object, even one as majestic and powerful as the sun was still blasphemy !

 

By Jack Dean (Jdean) on Friday, September 3, 1999 - 04:15 pm:

Greetings All,
I want to comment on the sign Q3. The sign Q3, according to Gardiner's list is a small open square or box.

Ossama says the phone is "f".

Oebix2 (and I imagine others of that persuasion) says the phone is a "p".

To support Ossama's view, please review Champollion's "Table of Hieroglyphic and Demotic Phonetic Signs" that can be found reprinted in page xi of the Introduction to Budge's AN EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPIC DICTIONARY, vol. 1. The table displays the Greek letter and hieroglyphic equivalent. AE sign Q3 equates to the Greek letter "phi". It is understandable how the confusion may have arose. The letter "phi" has the phonetic sound of an "f" and NOT a "p".

To compound the problem, a very similar sign is equated to the Greek letter "pi" which does have a phonetic value of "p". Budge, in his list of the characters (No. 83) on page cxxix, gives it a value of "p".

Maybe we owe Budge the credit for perpetuating this confusion. I don't think this will be the last word on the subject, but if we agree a mistake MIGHT have been made, it is an UNDERSTANDABLE mistake.

Two more nails for the Q3="f" argument:

1. Budge's EHD, vol. 1, page 236 has an entry: Pen-Amen-hetep. Opening sign is Q3. He cites the original form of the month Phamenoth. The "ph" is the "f" sound.

2. Budge's EHD, vol. 1, page 237 has an entry: Penrent. Opening sign is Q3. He cites the original form of the month Pharmuthi. The "ph" is the "f" sound again.

Interested in Egypt
JDean

 

By Jack Dean (Jdean) on Friday, September 3, 1999 - 08:55 pm:

Sir Maftet,
I think you have made some very sound points.

If we can agree that a mistake MIGHT have been made regarding the phonetic value of sign Q3, you may find the following persuasive: The name of the "god" commonly called "Ptah" had the following signs: Q3-X1-V28-A40. The Q3 is treated as a "p", but the Greeks transcribed the name with "phi"-"theta"-"alpha". If we can agree that this is the same sound in words like "philosophy", "philander" and "phonetic", then the sound is definitely an "f". The Greeks may have transliterated the word Q3-X1-V28-A40 something like "f-tha". The common usage places the vowel "a" between the "t" and the "h", while use of the letter "theta" suggests otherwise. Maybe Nitocris will accept the strength of this argument.

Ossama may be kind enough to expand on this view.

Interested in Egypt

JDean

 

By Jack Dean (Jdean) on Saturday, September 4, 1999 - 09:55 pm:

Ossama,

your comments regarding sign O1 is on point.

Everyone should start correcting their dictionaries and ABC's to reading hieroglyphics. Sign O1 is a very common sign as is Q3.

Interest in Egypt & sold on this aspect of Ossama's theory. 

JDean

 

By Sir Maftet on Sunday, September 5, 1999 - 10:35 am:

Hello Ossama.
Some people here do not understand if AE language has survived, but I believe that it has, even if it is not exactly the same because Latin exists today in English as Egyptian exists in Arabic. It is therefore perfectly easy for me to say that I speak Latin, and that you speak Egyptian. Just because a language is given a different name from the country it is spoken in doesn't mean the language has changed!! This is a mistake!! It is just each new society's version of the language through patriotism.

I'm sure you have many more signs to show us to follow the one's already here, so I would very much like to hear more, Ossama.

Sir Maftet

 

By Jack Dean (Jdean) on Sunday, September 5, 1999 - 10:58 am:

To undecided readers:
The case for sign Q3 equals "f", and not "p", is sound.

O1-D21 is "fr".

Conclusions that Ossama has reached (namely, AE religion is monotheistic, AE language survives in language today, reading hieroglyph's vowel placement is not "pure convention", AE used 5 hidden motorizing letters) are troubling, but knowledge is worth the quest.

Ossama's contribution to Egyptological studies could be very great.

I hope to have the chance to buy his book.

Interested in Egypt
JDean

 

By Avry on Sunday, September 19, 1999 - 07:01 pm:

Ossama is only challenging possible mistakes made over a hundred years ago, and is not politically driven like the "Decipherers of Old".

 

By Ritva (Ritva) on Wednesday, September 22, 1999 - 05:43 am:

Imy, check out Budge's "An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary" vol. 2, page 846.

Seems that X1 was wrongly replaced by U33. => tawakalna.

Ossama is right.
 
My best
Ritva

 

By nic armstrong on Wednesday, September 22, 1999 - 07:37 pm:

Thank you for the replies,
Amen Amen, it is no surprise that this glitch came from Semitic influence, and the corrective changes were made ASAP as Ossama has already mentioned.

Ossama, I wonder if you have a notion about the following:

[F34-F39], as a combined meaning?
Thank you
nic armstrong

 

By Bleu on Tuesday, June 29, 1999 - 08:08 am:

A lot of the confusion about the glyphs & the language/culture in general comes about because us Westerners have this belief (really an arrogance), that if we don't know it, then it either doesn't exist, is 'lost"/forgotten, or we can guess how the language was spoken, etc....

99 % of all the scholars / historians with published works do NOT have contact with the indigenous people from the Nile Valley who STILL carry on the connection/language & wisdom from their ancestors.

These indigenous people were used from time to time on some famous finds (King Tut, Prof. Fred Windoff's Napta Piya find in '74) but for the most part, these folks are not easily accessible & understanding the politics over in Egypt, it's easy to see why !!! .....

When one hears the medu Netjer spoken, or i should say whispered &/or sung by these indigenous people, most of it is quite different from how scholars & linguists pronounce it.

The research into the language does NOT take into account that these indigenous people STILL speak it, nor does it take into account that there is such a people !!....

Actually, most scholars will say that the indigenous people really DON'T exist, which gives them justification to air their views & theories. I remember being taught such a thing regarding the indigenous people here in America when I was in H.S.....

It took the many indigenous nations here standing up & shouting 'HEY... WE ARE STILL HERE" in the late 60's, '70's to catch our attention to the fact that they never disappeared !!.....

I doubt if we will ever see such a thing along the Nile Valley !!

 

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The following message was posted on the Guardian's Egypt discussion board:

http://egyptologist.org/discus/messages/7/3366.html?1030301768 

On Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 11:29 pm, Ossama Alsaadawi wrote:

Dear Jack,

Thanks for the books name. You might remember our discussion here nearly three years ago and how you independently, and so other gentlemen, proved independently that:

[Q3] = ph = f, together with other mistakes.

In any written language it is impossible to translate any words correctly if one is not able to read its elementary alphabets correctly.

Please, imagine an Egyptian man who reads the English (L) as th, the English (z) as f and the English (f) as p. Then you ask him to read English words and translate it!! Then he came to you and said I have translated all works of Shakespeare! Do you trust his translations?

For example, he will read (play) as pthay. But there is no pthay in any known language, so he will guess what it means and says O I got it it means crocodile!

Things dont go that way. We MUST read Egyptian basic phonemes correctly first, then we MUST decipher all other Hieroglyphs correctly then after all that we start to translate words then texts.

We cant read ftH as ptH, why? Because, myself being Egyptian, I read ptH for more than 15 years and I simply couldnt know what it means or what is the wisdom behind it. Even Egyptologists differ about its different meanings! But when I realized that it reads actually as ftH I realized at once, being an Egyptian, ALL what it means without checking any further documents.

It is exactly like when you read an English word sape and I spend five years to convince you that it means love then you discover that it reads actually as save!

This holds true for other thousands of Egyptian words. If we insist to read and write Egyptian words wrongly then it is our own problem, we lose our merit and the AEs are quite sure that their valuable texts have not been read yet!

Sincerely,
Ossama Alsaadawi

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Mostly, the sound of ignorance wins:

For long years I have been subjected to wild attacks and despising insults to my person from some ignorant people because I widely uncovered and explained the relevant and firm relation between phonations of the Egyptian Hieroglyphs and the Arabic utterance of words. Now, we find those same people advice other Egyptologists to profoundly study the Arabic language if they wish to be good and specialized Egyptologists. Immorally, they claim that they got this upshot and conclusion due to their personal research work in the field of Egyptian Hieroglyphs! Gentlemen, I have no further comment!

Dr. Ossama Alsaadawi

Egypt, July 2, 2005

<see Alsaadawi Dictionary of Egyptian Hieroglyphs >

< see Alsaadawi deciphering of Ancient Egyptian pictures >

< see Alsaadawi Vocabulary for Egyptian Hieroglyphic Words >

 

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